{"id":1050718,"date":"2025-11-23T12:28:51","date_gmt":"2025-11-23T09:28:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/darkamazi.info\/?p=1050718"},"modified":"2025-11-23T12:28:51","modified_gmt":"2025-11-23T09:28:51","slug":"qeyden-telekonferansa-di-navbera-evdila-ocalan-u-reveberen-pkke-de","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/darkamazi.info\/archives\/1050718","title":{"rendered":"Qeyd\u00ean telekonferansa di navbera Evdila Ocalan \u00fb r\u00eaveber\u00ean PKK\u2019\u00ea de\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"

T\u00eakiliy\u00ean s\u00eaal\u00ee y\u00ean di navbera \u00cemral\u00ee, Dewlet\u00ea \u00fb Qend\u00eel\u00ea de ji sala 1999an vir ve toreke piral\u00ee \u00fb ve\u015fart\u00ee ne. Bi taybet\u00ee bi p\u00eavajoya ku ji h\u00eala Bax\u00e7el\u00ee ve hatiye destp\u00eakirin, t\u00eakiliya di navbera van hers\u00eayan de j\u00ee guheriye. Ti\u015ft\u00ea ku ji bo man\u00eepulekirina raya gi\u015ft\u00ee t\u00ea n\u00ee\u015fandan, di rastiy\u00ea de m\u00eena \u015fax\u00ea ga ye. T\u00ea ragihandin ku Ocalan gelek hevd\u00eetin bi r\u00eaveberiya PKK\u2019\u00ea \u00fb Rojava re kiriye, nemaze pi\u015ft\u00ee \u015fewitandina \u00e7ekan a di T\u00eermeh\u00ea de.<\/span><\/h3>\n

Belgeya ku h\u00fbn \u00ea li j\u00ear bixw\u00eenin, qeyda telekonferansa Ocalan bi kadroy\u00ean PKK\u2019\u00ea re ya ber\u00ee kongreya hilwe\u015fandina PKK\u2019\u00ea ye.<\/h3>\n

Di telekonferans\u00ea de \u00e7ar kadroy\u00ean PKK\u2019\u00ea \u00fb efserek\u00ee MIT\u2019\u00ea amade b\u00fbn<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Karmendek\u00ee payebilind \u00ea MIT\u2019\u00ea (di belgey\u00ea de nav\u00ea w\u00ee Hakan e) ji bo organ\u00eezekirina telekonferans\u00ea \u00fb n\u00eeqa\u015fkirina w\u00ea bi r\u00eaveber\u00ean PKK\u2019\u00ea y\u00ean amade re \u00e7\u00fb cih\u00ea civ\u00een\u00ea. Ew di dema civ\u00een\u00ea de li salona civ\u00een\u00ea b\u00fb. Komeke mezin a PKK\u2019\u00ea j\u00ee amade b\u00fb. L\u00eabel\u00ea, ten\u00ea \u00e7ar kes li ber kamerayan r\u00fbni\u015ftib\u00fbn. Kes\u00ea ku protokol\u00eade not digirt wek\u00ee T. hate nas\u00een. Pa\u015f\u00ea hate \u00eediakirin ku ev kes Teko\u015fin Ozan (Esmen Ayaz) e, endama koma ku di 11 \u00ea T\u00eermeh\u00ea de \u00e7ek dan\u00een\u00ea de b\u00fb. L\u00eabel\u00ea, nav\u00ean be\u015fdar\u00ean din \u00ean civ\u00een\u00ea evin:<\/h3>\n

1-Sabri Ok,<\/h3>\n

2-Song\u00fcl \u00c7elik (Dilar Siwas), yek ji r\u00eaveber\u00ean D\u00eeplomasiya Ewrop\u00ee \u00fb Tevgera Jinan a PKK \u00ea.<\/h3>\n

3-Remz\u00ee Qartal<\/h3>\n

4-\u00celham Ahmet (Ronah\u00ee Efr\u00een)<\/h3>\n

Civ\u00een di 2 Gulan\u00ea de, s\u00ea roj ber\u00ee destp\u00eakirina kongreya xwe-hilwe\u015fandina PKK\u2019\u00ea p\u00eak hat. (Hin derdor\u00ean n\u00eaz\u00eek\u00ee PKK\u2019\u00ea \u00eedia dikin ku civ\u00een li hola ku PKK\u2019\u00ea kongreya xwe li dar xistiye p\u00eak hatiye. Ev ne ew kongre b\u00fb ku Murat Qarayilan l\u00ea amade b\u00fb, l\u00ea kongreya sereke \u00fb hola kongrey\u00ea b\u00fb ku Cem\u00eel Bayik be\u015fdar bib\u00fb. Heman derdor \u00eedia dikin ku tomar\u00ean v\u00eedyoy\u00ea y\u00ean axaftin\u00ean r\u00eavebiran \u00ean di kongrey\u00ea de ji h\u00eala rayedarek\u00ee MIT\u2019\u00ea y\u00ea bi nav\u00ea Hakan ve ji bo \u00cemraliy\u00ea \u00fb dewlet\u00ea hatine birin. L\u00eabel\u00ea, em nekar\u00een v\u00ea agahiy\u00ea pi\u015ftrast bikin.) Her wiha hinek agah\u00ee hene ku civ\u00een li Sil\u00eamaniy\u00ea p\u00eak hatiye.<\/h3>\n

Rastiya ku rayedarek\u00ee payebilind \u00ea MIT\u2019\u00ea t\u00eakiliy\u00ean ewqas n\u00eaz\u00eek bi PKK\u2019\u00ea re dan\u00ee, b\u00ea guman n\u00ee\u015fan dide ku di baweriya hevbe\u015f \u00fb diyalog\u00ea de p\u00ea\u015fketin \u00e7\u00eadibin. Ev yek j\u00ee n\u00ee\u015fan dide ku t\u00eakil\u00ee hem kevn e \u00fb hem j\u00ee h\u00een j\u00ee berdewam dike.<\/h3>\n

Herwiha, belge gelek n\u00ee\u015fanan dihew\u00eene ku ev ne civ\u00eena yekem b\u00fb, \u00fb gelek civ\u00een\u00ean bi v\u00ee reng\u00ee ber\u00ea j\u00ee p\u00eak hatib\u00fbn.<\/h3>\n

Her kes\u00ea ku di telekonferans\u00ea de amade b\u00fb bi baldar\u00ee axiv\u00ee \u00fb zimanek\u00ee muceret bikar an\u00ee da ku ji sir\u00eeyeta civ\u00een\u00ea b\u00ea parastin. L\u00eabel\u00ea, Ocalan bi zelal\u00ee diyar kir ku w\u00ee ev p\u00eavajo bin dar\u00ea zor\u00ea dest p\u00ea nekiriye \u00fb ji dema hatina xwe ya \u00cemraliy\u00ea ve ji bo w\u00ea dixebit\u00ee. Wek\u00ee din, Ocalan bi ewqas rehet\u00ee axiv\u00ee ku bi e\u015fkerey\u00ee ragihand, “Avakirina Komara Demokrat\u00eek ji bo min ji avakirina Kurdistanek\u00ea bi q\u00eemettir e.”<\/em><\/strong><\/h3>\n

Belgeya ku h\u00fbn \u00ea li j\u00ear d\u00ea bixw\u00eenin ji h\u00eala me ve nehatiye sans\u00fbrkirin an guhertin.<\/h3>\n

Destp\u00eaka belgey\u00ea ravekirina amadekariy\u00ean ku ber\u00ee destp\u00eakirina civ\u00een\u00ea hatine kirin vedihew\u00eene.<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Li odeya civ\u00een\u00ea bi qas\u00ee 10 deq\u00eeqeyan em sekin\u00een. Hakan, rayedar\u00ea ku li girav\u00ea bi Serok re axiv\u00eeb\u00fb, rojek ber\u00ea ji Tirkiyey\u00ea hatib\u00fb \u00fb amade b\u00fb. Pi\u015ft\u00ee 10 deq\u00eeqeyan, telefon l\u00ea da, \u00fb her kes li dora maseya civ\u00een\u00ea li ber ekran\u00ea li ser kursiyan r\u00fbni\u015ftin, amade b\u00fbn ku konferans\u00ea dest p\u00ea bikin. \u00c7ar heval (S, R, D, \u00fb I.A.) li ber ekrana kameray\u00ea r\u00fbni\u015ftin, heval\u00ea T j\u00ee li ser\u00ea masey\u00ea r\u00fbni\u015ft da ku zabit\u00ean civ\u00een\u00ea bigire. Gava ku ekran veb\u00fb, Serok \u00fb heval\u00ean w\u00ee \u00d6z \u00fb Dr., li her du aliyan r\u00fbni\u015ftin. Li r\u00eaza pa\u015f\u00een heval\u00ean w\u00ee Hamili, Omer, \u00fb Weysi r\u00fbni\u015ftin. Serok kaxezan di dest\u00ea de civ\u00een vekir.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ez silav\u00ean xwe ji her kes\u00ee re di\u015f\u00eenim. Ez \u00ea wek\u00ee Serok\u00ea Damezr\u00eener \u00ea PKK\u2019\u00ea axaftina xwe ya daw\u00ee bikim.<\/h3>\n

Ez v\u00ea p\u00eakhatey\u00ea wek\u00ee kom\u00eeteya amadekar a Yek\u00eetiya Kom\u00eener a Demokrat\u00eek p\u00eanase dikim \u00fb diyar dikim. Ez bi v\u00ea yek\u00ea dest p\u00ea dikim ku ev destp\u00ea\u015fxeriyek d\u00eerok\u00ee ye, ku dilsoz\u00ean me j\u00ee di nav de, \u00fb div\u00ea hem\u00ee kes\u00ean li dora me, \u00fb heta h\u00eaz\u00ean dijber j\u00ee, bi baldar\u00ee binirx\u00eenin, \u00fb tekez dikim ku berpirsiyariy\u00ean wan \u00ean gir\u00eeng j\u00ee hene. Div\u00ea hem\u00ee al\u00ee v\u00ea yek\u00ea bi hi\u015fyar\u00ee bigirin.<\/h3>\n

Ez \u00ea pi\u015ft\u00ee demek\u00ea pirs\u00ean we j\u00ee wergirim. Heval\u00ean we \u00e7i dib\u00eajin? H\u00eaviy\u00ean wan \u00e7i ne? Ez dixwazim pirs\u00ean we bibih\u00eezim. Min banga d\u00eerok\u00ee ya Bax\u00e7el\u00ee tekez kir, ku div\u00ea em dest\u00ea w\u00ee diri\u00eaj\u00ee me kir\u00ee hewa de neh\u00ealin. Min got ku ez \u00ea v\u00ea pirsgir\u00eak\u00ea bi demokrat\u00eekb\u00fbn\u00ea bi dewlet\u00ea re \u00e7areser bikim. Min ev yek wek\u00ee pabendb\u00fbnek dema ku ez yekem car gih\u00ee\u015ftim \u00cemraliy\u00ea an\u00ee ziman. Banga daw\u00ee j\u00ee bi destp\u00ea\u015fxeriya min a kesane p\u00eak hat. Min ev derfeta daw\u00ee wek\u00ee \u015fansek ba\u015f d\u00eet. Min ev amadekar\u00ee kir \u00fb heta roja \u00eero domand. Div\u00ea were zan\u00een ku li vir bi \u00e7i zextek \u00fb ferzkirin tune.<\/h3>\n

Ev civ\u00eena \u00eero n\u00ee\u015faneya qonaxek n\u00fb ye. Ew derbasb\u00fbna ji deraz\u00eenkeke gir\u00eeng \u00fb d\u00eerok\u00ee ye. Ez h\u00eav\u00ee dikim ku wisa were nirxandin. Ez bawer dikim ku daxuyaniya min a \u00e7ar xal\u00ee, an j\u00ee \u00e7ar sernav, gih\u00ee\u015ftiye we. Derbaskirina v\u00ea q\u00fbnax\u00ea daxuyaniyek yekal\u00ee ya niyet ba\u015f\u00eey\u00ea ye. Niha ez van dib\u00eajim. heke h\u00fbn bixwazin, ez \u00ea pirs\u00ean we wergirim. H\u00fbn dikarin pirs\u00ean xwe bikin. Bel\u00ea, Sebr\u00ee\u2026<\/h3>\n

Sebr\u00ee Ok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ber\u00ee her ti\u015ft\u00ee, em li ser nav\u00ea r\u00eaveberiy\u00ea r\u00eaz \u00fb heskirina xwe p\u00ea\u015fk\u00ea\u015f dikin. Em dizanin ku R\u00eaber\u00ea me bi baldar\u00eeyeke b\u00eahempa berpirsiyariyeke mezin hilgirtiye ser xwe. Em hewildan\u00ean we y\u00ean mezin ji bo gelan silav dikin. Em hewl didin ku li ser fikr\u00ean we p\u00eakb\u00eenin \u00fb f\u00eam bikin. Ez dixwazim hin agahiyan bidim.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Er\u00ea, pirs\u00ean we hene? Pirs\u00ean we \u00e7i ne?<\/h3>\n

Sebr\u00ee Ok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Bi dest\u00fbra we, ez dixwazim hin agahiyan bidim. Me di 10 sal\u00ean daw\u00ee de \u015ferek\u00ee dijwar me\u015fand. Ew \u015ferek\u00ee pir b\u00ea eman b\u00fb. Em li dever\u00ean bi qas\u00ee 50 an 100 metreyan j\u00ee di nav pev\u00e7\u00fbn\u00ea de b\u00fbn. Em h\u00ea j\u00ee di heman poz\u00eesyon\u00ea de \u00fb bi dewleta Tirkiyey\u00ea navhev de ne. Me bi agirbest\u00ea bersiva banga R\u00eaber\u00ea xwe da. L\u00ea usl\u00fbp neguheriye \u00fb \u00ear\u00ee\u015f berdewam dikin.<\/h3>\n

Serok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

(ket nava axiftin\u00ea) Er\u00ea, ez v\u00ea yek\u00ea f\u00eam dikim. B\u00ea guman f\u00eam b\u00fb. Ez \u00ea bersiva wan bidim. Pirs\u00ean we y\u00ean din hene? Remz\u00ee, pirs\u00ean we hene?<\/h3>\n

Remz\u00ee Qartal:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Li ser nav\u00ea gel \u00fb r\u00eaxistina Ewrop\u00ee, em r\u00eaz\u00ean xwe p\u00ea\u015fk\u00ea\u015f dikin. Pi\u015ftgiriya ji bo banga we di dema Newroz\u00ea de li Ewropay\u00ea gih\u00ee\u015ft asta her\u00ee bilind. Bawer\u00ee \u00fb be\u015fdariya banga we heye. L\u00eabel\u00ea, h\u00een j\u00ee k\u00eam\u00fbk\u00fbs\u00eey\u00ean me di avakirina civak\u00ea de hene. Gel bi tund\u00ee pi\u015ftgiriy\u00ea dide gav\u00ean we. Fikar li ser pol\u00eet\u00eekay\u00ean dewlet\u00ea hene.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ba\u015f e, ez f\u00eam dikim. \u00celham, ti\u015ftek heye ku h\u00fbn bib\u00eajin?<\/h3>\n

\u00celham Ehmed:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Em silav \u00fb r\u00eaz\u00ean xwe p\u00ea\u015fk\u00ea\u015f dikin. Ez dixwazim pabendb\u00fbna Rojava ji we re veb\u00eajim. Me n\u00ear\u00een\u00ean we y\u00ean li ser Bakur\u00ea S\u00fbriyey\u00ea wergirtine. Em dixwazin li vir j\u00ee ji we bibih\u00eezin.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

We nameya min wergirt? Kesek\u00ee di\u00eej derket\u00ee heye? Kesek dijber hene?<\/h3>\n

\u00celham Ehmed:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Na Serok\u00ea min kesek li hember derkeve tune ye. Her kes li gel banga we ye. L\u00ea ji r\u00eavebiriya Ahmet \u015eara guman heye. Ji n\u00eazikahiy\u00ean Tirkiyey\u00ea guman hene.<\/h3>\n

Evdila Ocalan daxwaz kir ku r\u00eaveberiya Rojava s\u00eenoran \u00fb gumrikan radest\u00ee \u015eam\u00ea bikin<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ev banga min gir\u00eeng e. Ez bi zelal\u00ee dib\u00eajim. Me her ti\u015ft got \u00fb her ti\u015ft an\u00ee ziman. Serdema n\u00fb serdema demokrasiy\u00ea ye. Di serdema n\u00fb de, dewlet tune ne. Em \u00ea yek\u00eet\u00eeya S\u00fbr\u00eeyeya demokrat\u00eek bipar\u00eazin. PYD Partiya Yek\u00eet\u00eeya Demokratan e. we di bin v\u00ee nav\u00ee de tevgereke mezin afirand. Ez we di\u015fop\u00eenim. Demokras\u00eeya her\u00eam\u00ee gir\u00eeng e. Ne dewleta S\u00fbriyey\u00ea \u00fb ne j\u00ee hik\u00fbmeta \u015eara nikarin v\u00ea yek\u00ea bi dest bixin. Niha, Ehmed \u015eara tems\u00eela S\u00fbriy\u00ea dike. Ez bawer dikim ku ew j\u00ee w\u00ea bernameya me ya n\u00fb f\u00eam bike. Em dest\u00fbreke demokrat\u00eek dixwazin. Ger welat demokrat\u00eek bibe, hewcedar\u00ee bi \u00e7ekan nam\u00eene. Ger demokras\u00ee hebe, \u00e7ek \u00ead\u00ee nabin sedema dijminat\u00eey\u00ea. Div\u00ea s\u00eenor\u00ean derve \u00fb gumrikan h\u00fbn radest\u00ee dewleta S\u00fbriy\u00ea bikin. H\u00fbn kar\u00fbbar\u00ean xwe y\u00ean navxwey\u00ee bi r\u00eave bibin. Ez \u00ea pa\u015f\u00ea li ser v\u00ea yek\u00ea biaxivim. Niha bes e.<\/h3>\n

Gelo pirs\u00ean heval\u00ean din hene? Hevaleke jin heye. ew PAJK e? Pirs\u00ean te hene?<\/h3>\n

Dilar Sivas: (Song\u00fbl \u00c7el\u00eek)<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ez ji tevgera jin\u00ean Ewropa tevl\u00eedibim serok\u00eamin. Ber\u00ee her ti\u015ft\u00ee, silav\u00ean heva\u00eal\u00eabn jin ji we re hene. Ez j\u00ee pirs\u00ean hevkar\u00ean xwe dipejir\u00eenim. Her wiha, berpirsiyariy\u00ean me di v\u00ea p\u00eavajoy\u00ea de \u00e7i ne?<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

(Serok hewl da ku bi b\u00eer b\u00eene ka ev heval k\u00ee b\u00fb. Heval Sebr\u00ee ket navber\u00ea da, ji serok re got “D\u00eelar ji S\u00eawas\u00ea ye, ew j\u00ee li cem te(\u015eam\u00ea) maye.” Serok got, “Ba\u015f e,” \u00fb dest bi axaftin\u00ea kir.<\/h3>\n

Ji ber v\u00ea yek\u00ea, ti\u015ftek ec\u00eab an neasay\u00ee tune. Ti neraz\u00eeb\u00fbn tune. W\u00ea dem\u00ea her ti\u015ft zelal e. Xala min a sereke eve: Ez dixwazim her pirs an fikaran bibih\u00eezim.<\/h3>\n

Bi hilwe\u015f\u00eena dewleta S\u00fbriyey\u00ea re, rew\u015fek n\u00fb derketiye hol\u00ea. Rew\u015fa li \u00ceran \u00fb hem j\u00ee li Iraq\u00ea j\u00ee peymana Qesr\u00ee \u015eir\u00een bih\u00fbr\u00eeye. S\u00fbriye \u00fb Iraq hema b\u00eaje hilwe\u015fiyane. Peymana M\u00fbsil\u00ea heye, ku 100 sal ber\u00ea hatiye \u00eemzekirin. T\u00ea gotin ku bend\u00ean ve\u015fart\u00ee hene, l\u00ea em nizanin. Her wiha t\u00ea gotin ku Peymana Sykes Picot bi \u015fert\u00ea bi may\u00eena van rej\u00eem\u00ean ku min behs kirin ve gir\u00eaday\u00ee b\u00fb. Em dib\u00eenin ku ew dewlet niha di \u00e7i rew\u015f\u00ea de ne. Ew ji hole rab\u00fbne. Her wiha, Peymana Lozan\u00ea a 100 salan ber\u00ea heye. Me v\u00ea dawiy\u00ea ev p\u00eeroz kir. Ji ber v\u00ea yek\u00ea, rew\u015fek n\u00fb heye. Rew\u015fa li \u00ceran, S\u00fbriye \u00fb Iraq\u00ea, digel… bi rew\u015fa Sykes Picot a hey\u00ee re, guheriye. Rew\u015feke n\u00fb heye. Tirkiy\u00ea j\u00ee pirsgir\u00eakek dest\u00fbra bingeh\u00een ya cid\u00ee heye.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan: Ez ji ber du sedeman PKK\u2019\u00ea hildiwe\u015f\u00eenim.<\/span><\/h3>\n

Min bi PKK\u2019\u00ea re, xwest ez ber bi Kurdistanek Serbixwe ve bi\u00e7im. St\u00fbna pi\u015ft\u00ea ya bernameya partiya me Kurdistaneke serbixwe b\u00fb. Min p\u00ea\u015fengiya v\u00ea kir. Niha em w\u00ea diguher\u00eenin \u00fb dest ji v\u00ea armanc\u00ea berdidin. Ew di belgeya ku di dest we de j\u00ee heye. Ez v\u00ea biryar\u00ea ji ber du sedeman didim. Ya yekem;<\/strong> sosyal\u00eezma reel bandor li ser me kir. Niha, li cihek\u00ee ku sosyal\u00eezma reel hilwe\u015fiyaye, min maf\u00ea \u00e7aren\u00fbs\u00ee y\u00ea neteweyan \u00fb n\u00eaz\u00eekatiy\u00ean rizgariya netewey\u00ee y\u00ean dewletpar\u00eaz l\u00eakol\u00een kir. Min f\u00eam kir ku ev nikare bibe prens\u00eebek. PKK pi\u015ft\u00ee sal\u00ean 1990 \u00ee xwe pir dubare kiriye. Bi rast\u00ee, wek\u00ee Ozal got\u00ee, “v\u00ea tevger\u00ea temen\u00ea xwe ji dest daye.” destp\u00ea\u015fxer\u00eeya Ozal bi rast\u00ee \u00e7areseriyek ji bo v\u00ea pirsgir\u00eak\u00ea peyda kir. L\u00eabel\u00ea, h\u00eaz\u00ean li dervey\u00ee s\u00eestem\u00ea di nav dewlet \u00fb PKK\u2019\u00ea de \u00e7alak\u00ee kirin, \u00fb ew \u00een\u00eesiyat\u00eef hate sabotekirin. Wan sabote kir \u00fb p\u00eavajo vala derket. \u00a0<\/h3>\n

Sedema duyem\u00een<\/strong> j\u00ee ji sal\u00ean 1990 \u00ee vir ve, ji 30 salan z\u00eadetir, ev \u00e7erx bi \u015f\u00eaweyek\u00ee zirarder dizivir\u00ee. Ozal serneket. Em j\u00ee nekar\u00een v\u00ea rew\u015f\u00ea rawest\u00eenin. K\u00ee \u00e7i b\u00eaje bila b\u00eaje, ez v\u00ea berpirsiyariy\u00ea digirim ser xwe \u00fb dest ji armanca dewlet-netewey\u00ee berdidim. Li \u015f\u00fbna dewlet-netewey\u00ee, dikare neteweyek demokrat\u00eek, civakek demokrat\u00eek a li ser bingeha sosyal\u00eezm\u00ea were aramackirin. Ez van ner\u00eenan ne ten\u00ea ji bo Tirkiyey\u00ea, ji bo tevahiya c\u00eehan\u00ea dipar\u00eazim. Civaka Demokrat\u00eek a ku ez bang dikim n\u00eaz\u00eekatiyek gerd\u00fbn\u00ee ye \u00fb ez pir ser fikir\u00eeya me. Em \u00ea di n\u00eeqa\u015f\u00ean p\u00ea\u015feroj\u00ea de w\u00ea k\u00fbrtir bikin. H\u00fbn j\u00ee dikarin perspekt\u00eefan bixw\u00eenin \u00fb binirx\u00eenin. H\u00fbn \u00ea berdewamiya w\u00ea di p\u00ea\u015feroj\u00ea de bixw\u00eenin.<\/h3>\n

Ez bi xwe ya di prat\u00eek\u00ea de hatiye kirin wek cewher temam dikim. Em niha hilwe\u015fandina PKK\u2019\u00ea ferm\u00ee dikin. Min di demek\u00ea de gotib\u00fb ku ez ji v\u00ea PKK\u2019\u00ea \u00eestifa dikim. Dibe ku were b\u00eera we.<\/h3>\n

Sebr\u00ee Ok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Bel\u00ea, Serok\u00ea min. We ev gotin di Kongreya 6 an de got.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/strong> Ez wek\u00ee sosyal\u00eestek, dib\u00eajim: Ez sosyal\u00eezma li ser bingeha tund\u00fbt\u00fbj\u00ee \u00fb \u015fer red dikim.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Bel\u00ea, min di w\u00ea kongrey\u00ea de \u00eestifaya xwe p\u00ea\u015fk\u00ea\u015f kir. Yek ji sedem\u00ean ku PKK\u2019e gihi\u015ft\u00eeye dawiya temen\u00ea xwe ev e ku ew di bin \u015fert \u00fb merc\u00ean \u00eenkara hi\u015fk a Kurdan de x\u00fbliq\u00ee ye. L\u00eabel\u00ea, \u015fert \u00fb merc\u00ean \u00eenkarkirina Kurdan li Tirk\u00eey\u00ea bi daw\u00ee b\u00fbne. Div\u00ea were zan\u00een ku PKK\u2019\u00ea \u00eenkarkirin sekinand \u00fb rola xwe l\u00eest. Li ser v\u00ea bingeh\u00ea, temen\u00ea xwe dagirt\u00ee ye. Heta Dem\u00eerel j\u00ee got, “Ez rastiya Kurd nas dikim.” PKK nikare sosyal\u00eezm\u00ea p\u00ea\u015f bixe. Ji ber ku PKK\u2019\u00ea di nav xwe de demokras\u00ee p\u00ea\u015f nexistiye, di heman dem\u00ea de t\u00eakiliy\u00ean xwe y\u00ean derve j\u00ee negih\u00ee\u015ftiye astek t\u00earker.<\/h3>\n

Armanca PKK\u2019\u00ea damezrandina dewleta netewey\u00ee b\u00fb. Armanca w\u00ea ew b\u00fb ku bi stratejiya \u00e7ekdar\u00ee van armanca bi dest bixe. Armanca dewletek netewey\u00ee t\u00eako\u015f\u00eena \u00e7ekdar\u00ee hewce dike. L\u00eabel\u00ea, ew guhertina ku me di n\u00eaz\u00eekatiya dewleta netewey\u00ee \u00fb rizgariya netewey\u00ee de kir\u00ee, \u00ead\u00ee dewleta netew\u00ee bo Kurdan ne hewce ye. Ez v\u00ea yek\u00ea wek\u00ee sosyal\u00eestek dib\u00eajim. Ez sosyal\u00eezma li ser bingeha tund\u00fbt\u00fbj\u00ee \u00fb \u015fer red dikim. Ez bi gotina Mao ya “Riya \u015fore\u015f\u00ea ji lol\u00eeya \u00e7ek\u00ea re derbas dibe” raz\u00ee nabim \u00fb ez w\u00ea xelet dib\u00eenim. Ez dib\u00eajim ku sosyal\u00eezm ten\u00ea dikare li ser bingeh\u00ean a\u015ftiyane \u00fb demokrat\u00eek were avakirin. R\u00eayek din dervey\u00ee v\u00ea ne mimkun e. Di prens\u00eeb\u00ea de, sosyal\u00eezm bi tund\u00fbt\u00fbjiy\u00ea nay\u00ea avakirin. Ev prens\u00eebek e.<\/h3>\n

Ez dikarim xala din a t\u00eakildar wiha veb\u00eajim: “Bel\u00ea, we ev \u00e7ek wek am\u00fbrek ji dest me girt, gelek \u00ear\u00ee\u015f hene, Li me didin. \u00car\u00ee\u015f li ser me didomin dibe ku h\u00fbn bipirsin\u2026?\u201d Em \u00e7awa dikarin biryarek wisa bidin? \u00c7i dibe?’ H\u00fbn di v\u00ea mijar\u00ea de rast dib\u00eajin. Dibe ku h\u00fbn bipirsin, ‘h\u00fbn\u00ea \u00e7i deynin \u015f\u00fbna w\u00ea.?’ Niha, ti\u015ft\u00ea ku ez \u00ea wek\u00ee bersiv b\u00eajim ev e: Siyaseta demokrat\u00eek \u00fb aliy\u00ea qan\u00fbn\u00ee pir gir\u00eeng in, \u00fb em \u00ea w\u00ea armanc\u00ea p\u00ea\u015fbixin.<\/h3>\n

Gelek heval d\u00ea werin Tirkiyey\u00ea. Div\u00ea ev bi qan\u00fbn\u00ea were \u00e7areser kirin. Em li ser aliy\u00ea qan\u00fbn\u00ee diaxivin. Dibe ku ev yek heman dem de \u00e7\u00eanebe, l\u00ea bi srerast kirina hindek xal\u00ean qan\u00fbn\u00ee ev y\u00eak w\u00ea \u00e7\u00eabe.<\/h3>\n

Ez b\u00fb wej\u00ee v\u00ea niv\u00ees\u00ea bixw\u00eenim: (Serok paragrafek ji be\u015fa t\u00eakildar a perspekt\u00eefa ku w\u00ee ji bo PKK\u2019\u00ea \u015fandiye xwend.)<\/h3>\n

Xala me ya s\u00eayem\u00een:<\/strong> Dewlet ji bo diyalog \u00fb hevd\u00eetin\u00ean bi PKK\u2019\u00ea re girt\u00ee ye. Ev ne xaleke ku heke nebe nabe ye. L\u00ea ji bo ku r\u00eayek bo dan\u00fbstandin \u00fb diyaloga saxlem gengaz be, div\u00ea PKK ji navber\u00ea derkeve. Ji bo v\u00ea yek\u00ea, fesihkirina PKK\u2019\u00ea d\u00ea v\u00ea astengiy\u00ea rake \u00fb r\u00ea li ber diyalog\u00ea veke. Wek\u00ee din, raya gi\u015ft\u00ee j\u00ee heman hesasiyet heye. Kes nikare bi h\u00easan\u00ee bi PKK\u2019\u00ea re dan\u00fbstandina bike\u201d<\/h3>\n

Min di perspekt\u00eefa ji we re r\u00eakir\u00ee de di Xala 4-an de bi berfireh\u00ee rave kir\u00ee ye. Ez li vir dixw\u00eenim. (Serok gotara t\u00eakildar a niv\u00ees\u00ea xwend)<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/strong> Di nav PKK\u2019\u00ea \u00fb di nav dewlet\u00ea de kes\u00ean ku dixwazin p\u00eavajoy\u00ea t\u00eak bibin hene<\/strong>.<\/h3>\n

Div\u00ea maf\u00ea siyaseta demokrat\u00eek bi qan\u00fbn\u00ea were naskirin. R\u00eaya wan d\u00ea zelal be. Bala xwe bidin\u00ea ku avakirina van \u015fert \u00fb merc\u00ean n\u00fb bi fesihkirina PKK\u2019\u00ea ve gir\u00eaday\u00ee ye. Ez bawer dikim ku h\u00fbn \u00ea biserkevin. Ez guman nakim. T\u00ea gotin ku pi\u015ft\u00ee hilwe\u015fandina Kongrey\u00ea d\u00ea gav werin av\u00eatin. Li ser nav\u00ea dewlet\u00ea, h\u00eaz\u00ean resm\u00ee dib\u00eajin er\u00ea. L\u00ea h\u00eaz\u00ean li dervey\u00ee s\u00eestem\u00ea dikarin w\u00ea t\u00eak bibin, ji ber v\u00ea yek\u00ea div\u00ea h\u00fbn tedb\u00eeran bigirin.<\/h3>\n

Ez bawer dikim ku pi\u015ft\u00ee v\u00ea v\u00eedeokonferans\u00ea p\u00eavajoyek n\u00fb d\u00ea dest p\u00ea dike. Em nizanin dewlet d\u00ea \u00e7iqas pi\u015ftgir\u00ee bide. Derbar\u00ea hevd\u00eetin\u00ean min bir\u00eaz serok \u00fb rayedar\u00ean din re, ez v\u00ea dib\u00eajim: Ez bi dewleta huq\u00fbq\u00ee re dicivim. L\u00ea li pi\u015ft perd\u00ea h\u00eaz\u00ean ku li dervey\u00ee hiq\u00fbq\u00ee j\u00ee ne hene. Di nav PKK\u2019\u00ea \u00fb dewlet\u00ea de j\u00ee h\u00eaz\u00ean din hene. Div\u00ea em bi hi\u015fyar\u00ee n\u00eaz\u00ee v\u00ea bibin, \u00fb div\u00ea bi tevah\u00ee r\u00ea li ber astengkera werin girtin.<\/h3>\n

Em li vir hevd\u00eetin \u00fb n\u00eeqa\u015f dikin. Em bi rayedar\u00ean dewlet\u00ea re dicivin. D\u00ea \u00e7iqas dem bigire ku ev amadekar\u00ee bi daw\u00ee bibin dive were zelalkirin. Min ji wan re j\u00ee got. Div\u00ea em v\u00ea yek\u00ea dir\u00eaj nekin. Ez ji dewler\u00ea re j\u00ee dib\u00eajim. Ez ji we dixwazim ku h\u00fbn b\u00eay\u00ee derengketin\u00ea, b\u00eay\u00ee ku bikevin nav ti\u015ft\u00ean ku d\u00ea p\u00eavajoy\u00ea tevlihev bikin an t\u00eak bidin, \u00fb b\u00eay\u00ee ku bi dem\u00ea re dir\u00eaj bikin, ti\u015ft\u00ea ku p\u00eaw\u00eest e bikin. Em niha parad\u00eegmayan diguher\u00eenin. Em li vir bi heval\u00ean xwe re li ser v\u00ea yek\u00ea n\u00eeqa\u015f dikin. Min p\u00ea\u015fgotina gotar\u00ea ji we re \u015fand, \u00fb we muhtemelen wergirtiye.<\/h3>\n

Sebr\u00ee Ok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Bel\u00ea, ew gih\u00ee\u015ftiye me Serok\u00ea min.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ew ji heft xalan p\u00eak t\u00ea. Ez hewl didim w\u00ea temam bikim. Dema ku qediya ez \u00ea bi\u015f\u00eenim. Ew \u00ea ji we re were. Ew \u00ea Yek\u00eetiya Civaka Demokrat\u00eek be. Min bi ti\u015ftek\u00ee din p\u00eanase nekin. Ev bernameya min e. Bila her kes \u00e7i dixwaze bifikire \u00fb b\u00eaje. Ew dikarin hilbijartin\u00ean xwe bikin. Bernameya min ji bo be\u015f\u00ean din j\u00ee derbas dibe. L\u00ea ez bi biryar im. Em nebin m\u00eena Barzan\u00eeyan. Em dewletek federal an ti\u015ftek\u00ee wisa naxwazin. Em \u00ea bi wan \u00fb Taleban\u00ee re li ser bingeha yekitiya demokrat\u00eek t\u00eakiliyan p\u00ea\u015f bixin. Werin em bi Iraq \u00fb \u00ceran\u00ea re j\u00ee dan\u00fbstandin\u00ean \u00e7areseriyek demokrat\u00eek p\u00ea\u015f bixin. Bi taybet\u00ee ji bo \u00ceran\u00ea, silav\u00ean min ji PJAK re b\u00eajin, \u00fb div\u00ea dan\u00fbstandin\u00ean demokrat\u00eek(bi \u00ceran\u00ea re) dest p\u00ea bikin. Rojava j\u00ee div\u00ea di nav demokrasiya xwe ya her\u00eam\u00ee de r\u00eaber\u00ean xwe hilbij\u00eare. Ewropa ji xwe\u00a0 xebata xwe dime\u015f\u00eene. Tu guhdar\u00ee dik\u00ee Remz\u00ee, ne wisa? Sosyal\u00eezma Demokrat\u00eek di Civaka Demokrat\u00eek de dikare bi h\u00easan\u00ee \u00fb guncawtir\u00een away\u00ee li Ewropay\u00ea were bic\u00eeh kirin. Min ji \u00celham re j\u00ee behsa s\u00eestema demokrat\u00eek a her\u00eam\u00ee kir.<\/h3>\n

Heval\u00ean h\u00eaja. Hin kes ti\u015ft\u00ean wek\u00ee “V\u00ea kongrey\u00ea ez xemg\u00een kirim; \u00ea\u015f \u00fb hest\u00ean mezin hene, \u00fb hwd.” Bi rast\u00ee, ez qet wisa neb\u00fbm. Yan\u00ee, ez xemg\u00een neb\u00fbm. Ez hestyar neb\u00fbm. \u00db ez xemg\u00een j\u00ee nabim. Min PKK bi xwe damezrand, \u00fb ez bi xwe j\u00ee diqed\u00eenim. Min PKK 52 sal, 1 meh \u00fb 10 roj ber\u00ea damezrand. Niha ez yek\u00eetiyek n\u00fb, S\u00eestema Yek\u00eetiya Demokrat\u00eek p\u00ea\u015f dixim. Di Cild\u00ea 5 an, \u00ea pirt\u00fbka min de, bernameya w\u00ea heb\u00fb. Di niv\u00eesa ku min ji we re \u015fand \u00fb rapora siyas\u00ee ya n\u00fb de b\u00eatir ti\u015ft d\u00ea hebin. H\u00fbn \u00ea w\u00ea bist\u00eenin. H\u00fbn dikarin neraz\u00eeb\u00fbn \u00fb l\u00eaz\u00eadekirin\u00ean xwe bikin.<\/h3>\n

Ez \u00ea niha ten\u00ea van bib\u00eajim.<\/h3>\n

Ez dixwazim bi dir\u00fb\u015fmek\u00ea biqed\u00eenim: “Israr kirin li ser mirovahiy\u00ea israr li ser sosyal\u00eezm\u00ea ye.” Min ber\u00ea j\u00ee gotib\u00fb dema ku sosyal\u00eezma reel hilwe\u015fiya. Min dema ku her kes di pan\u00eek\u00ea de b\u00fb \u00fb baweriya bi sosyal\u00eezm\u00ea qels dib\u00fb got. Sosyal\u00eezma reel ber bi t\u00eak\u00e7\u00fbn\u00ea ve di\u00e7e, sosyal\u00eezma demokrat\u00eek ber bi serketin\u00ea ve di\u00e7e.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan: <\/span>Ez ji bo demokrat\u00eekkirina Rojhilata Nav\u00een pi\u015ftgiriya Tirkiyey\u00ea dixwazim.<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Sebr\u00ee Ok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Em li ser k\u00fbr dibin. Em hewl didin ku f\u00eam bikin. Gelo p\u00eavajoyek dan\u00fbstandin\u00ea d\u00ea \u00e7\u00eabe? Ew \u00ea \u00e7awa bibe? P\u00eavajoya dan\u00fbstandin\u00ean demokrat\u00eek d\u00ea \u00e7awa p\u00ea\u015fkeve?<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Min f\u00eam kir, bila ez h\u00fbrgiliyan bidim. \u00censiyat\u00eef\u00ean yekal\u00ee y\u00ean weke ber\u00ea bi daw\u00ee b\u00fbn. Bi Iraq, \u00ceran \u00fb S\u00fbriyey\u00ea re diyalog\u00ea p\u00ea\u015f bixin. Li ser bingeha yekitiya demokrat\u00eek dan\u00fbstandinan bi wan re p\u00ea\u015f bixin. Ez v\u00ea yek\u00ea bi Tirkiyey\u00ea re j\u00ee p\u00ea\u015f dixim. L\u00ea ev bi t\u00eara xwe nay\u00ea f\u00eamkirin. H\u00fbn bi qalib\u00ean dewletpar\u00eaz\u00ee n\u00eaz\u00eek dibin. Min \u00eero di komxebat\u00ea de q\u00eeyamet rakir. S\u00ea \u015f\u00eawey\u00ean r\u00eavebir\u00eey\u00ea hene: r\u00eaveber\u00eeya dewlet\u00ea, r\u00eaveber\u00eeta desthilat\u00ea \u00fb \u015f\u00eawaz\u00ea r\u00eaveber\u00eeya demokrat\u00eek. Em \u00ea ten\u00ea r\u00eaveber bin. Ji ber ku r\u00eaveber\u00ee demokrat\u00eek e. T\u00eagih\u00ee\u015ftina me t\u00eagih\u00ee\u015ftina r\u00eaveber\u00ee ye. Yan\u00ee, r\u00eaveber\u00eeya demokrat\u00eek. Em \u00ea li ser v\u00ea yek\u00ea bin. Bi rast\u00ee, em \u00ea ten\u00ea demokrat\u00eek bin, ne \u00eextidar bin. Ez dixwazim v\u00ea yek\u00ea dubare bikim: ferzkirina v\u00ea yek\u00ea li ser \u00ceran, Iraq \u00fb S\u00fbriyey\u00ea bi qas\u00ee z\u00ear bi q\u00eemete. Em v\u00ea yek\u00ea ji Tirkiyey\u00ea re j\u00ee p\u00ea\u015fniyar dikin. Em \u00ea Rojhilata Nav\u00een ji demokrasiy\u00ea re vekin. Ji bo v\u00ea armanc\u00ea, ez \u00ea ji Tirkiy\u00ea pi\u015ftgiriy\u00ea bixwazim. Tirkiyeyek demokrat\u00eek dikare p\u00ea\u015feng\u00eeya v\u00ea bernamey\u00ea bike. Em \u00ea yek\u00eeney\u00ean xwe y\u00ean demokrat\u00eek li ser dewlet\u00ea ferz bikin.<\/h3>\n

Sebr\u00ee Ark:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Gelo Serok bi xwe dikare van hevd\u00eetinan bike? Li S\u00fbriye, \u00ceran \u00fb Iraq\u00ea pirsgir\u00eak hene. Gelo serokat\u00ee dikar bikeve dewr\u00ea?<\/h3>\n

Ocalan: Em naxwazin dewlet\u00ea bi hev re bir\u00eave bibin; em demokrasiy\u00ea dixwazin.<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Serok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

H\u00fbn \u00ea yek\u00eetiya xwe ya demokrat\u00eek ji dewletan re rave bikin. H\u00fbn \u00ea ji bo w\u00ea t\u00eabiko\u015fin. \u015e\u00eawaza t\u00eako\u015f\u00eena Yek\u00eetiya Demokrat\u00eek cuda ye. \u00c7\u00eanabe h\u00fbn bibin be\u015fek dewlet\u00ea. S\u00fbriye dewletek e. Tirkiye j\u00ee dewletek e. Em ne li dij\u00ee van in. Em \u00ea ji dewlet\u00ea bixwazin ku yek\u00eeney\u00ean demokrat\u00eek dest nede. Em \u00ea li dij\u00ee dewlet\u00ea dewletperestiy\u00ea nekin. H\u00fbn v\u00ea yek\u00ea f\u00eam nakin. Peymana bi Ehmet \u015eera re peymanek e ku dewlet\u00ea bi hev re bir\u00eave bibin. Ti\u015ft\u00ea ez di b\u00eajim ne ev e. Div\u00ea \u00celham Ehmed v\u00ea yek\u00ea f\u00eam bike \u00fb bi awayek\u00ee rast veb\u00eaje.<\/h3>\n

T\u00eageha me ya Civaka Demokrat\u00eek di heman dem\u00ea de parastina her\u00ee bibandor a li dij\u00ee fa\u015f\u00eezm\u00ea ye.<\/h3>\n

\u00celham Ehmed:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Em dixwazin pirsgir\u00eak\u00ean xwe bi \u015eera re \u00e7areser bikin. (Em dixwazin pirsgir\u00eaka bi \u015eera re \u00e7areser bikin. L\u00ea ew dib\u00eaje Tirkiye destwerdan\u00ea dike \u00fb nah\u00eale em pirsgir\u00eak\u00ea \u00e7areser bikin.)<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Min ba\u015f fam nekir. Ez f\u00eam nakim. Bila ez bi kurtas\u00ee werger\u00eenim Tirk\u00ee.<\/h3>\n

Sebr\u00ee Ok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Bila ez rave bikim. Ew (\u00celham Ehmed) dib\u00eaje, “Em bi Ehmed \u015eera re diaxivin, \u00fb dema ku em hewl didin pirsgir\u00eakan \u00e7areser bikin, ew astengiyan derdixe. Ew (\u00celham) behsa zext\u00ean Tirkiyey\u00ea dike.”<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ez \u00ea bi rayedar\u00ean Tirkiyey\u00ea re biaxivim. Min ev yek rave kiriye, \u00fb ez \u00ea berdewam rave bikim. Lez\u00ea nekin. Em \u00ea v\u00ea pirsgir\u00eak\u00ea bi hev re \u00e7areser bikin.<\/h3>\n

Ez bi e\u015fkerey\u00ee diaxivim, \u00fb ez ji we re j\u00ee bi e\u015fkerey\u00ee dib\u00eajim: Avakirina Komara Demokrat\u00eek ji bo min ji avakirina Kurdistanek\u00ea h\u00eajatir e.<\/em><\/strong><\/h3>\n

Sebr\u00ee Ok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ji h\u00eala me ve, t\u00eakiliyek pir vebijark heye. Dewlet \u00fb r\u00eaxistin, h\u00eaz hene. Ew dixwazin t\u00eakiliyan p\u00ea\u015f bixin.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

(Serok ket navber\u00ea) Min fam kir. H\u00fbn behsa gelek vebijark \u00fb t\u00eakiliyan dikin. H\u00fbn behsa gelek vebijarkan dikin. L\u00ea h\u00fbn Xezey\u00ea t\u00eenin b\u00eera xwe. H\u00fbn Ukraynay\u00ea t\u00eenin b\u00eera xwe? H\u00fbn dizanin \u00e7i hat ser\u00ea wan? H\u00fbn dizanin \u00e7awa ew ji h\u00eala gelek h\u00eazan ve hatin pi\u015ftgir\u00ee kirin, \u00fb d\u00fbv re wan ew \u00e7awa b\u00ea\u00e7are hi\u015ftin? \u00celham bi hostay\u00ee t\u00eakiliyan p\u00ea\u015f dixe. Ev gir\u00eeng e. Ez nikarim ti\u015ftek li ser p\u00ea\u015fxistina t\u00eakiliyan b\u00eajim. H\u00fbn \u00ea berpirsiyariya wan bigirin ser xwe. Ez nab\u00eajim t\u00eakiliyan p\u00ea\u015f nexin. L\u00ea h\u00fbn \u00ea encam\u00ean w\u00ea bi xwe binirx\u00eenin. H\u00fbn f\u00eam dikin, Sebr\u00ee \u00fb Remz\u00ee?<\/h3>\n

Ez \u00eero k\u00eafxwe\u015f im. Ez ji bar\u00ea xwe rizgar b\u00fbm, \u00fb ez w\u00ee bar\u00ee didim we. Soz\u00ean min \u00ean n\u00fb, armanc\u00ean min \u00ean n\u00fb j\u00ee hene.<\/h3>\n

Remz\u00ee Qartal:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Bi banga sedsal\u00ea, em wek\u00ee r\u00eaxistin \u00fb wek\u00ee gel pir zelal in. Pirsgir\u00eak dewlet\u00ea da ye. H\u00fbn bang li PKK\u2019\u00ea bikin. Pi\u015ftre d\u00ea p\u00eangav werin av\u00eatin. Pi\u015ftre kongre w\u00ea b\u00ea li dar xistinn, \u00fb pi\u015ftre d\u00ea p\u00eangav b\u00ean av\u00eatin. Reftara dewlet\u00ea ya b\u00ea p\u00eangav gumanan bi me re \u00e7\u00eadike\u2026<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ez f\u00eam dikim, Remz\u00eey\u00ea delal. Ez hem we \u00fb hem j\u00ee dewlet\u00ea nas dikim. Ew Apo p\u00ea\u015fber\u00ee we \u015fix\u00fbl\u00ea xam nake. Ez bi cewher\u00ea 27 sal\u00ean xwe y\u00ean li vir dij\u00eem. Ez her roj li vir difikirim. Gel ji min bawer dike. Ji min ti\u015ftek\u00ee xirab \u00e7\u00eanabe.<\/h3>\n

Ez h\u00eav\u00ee dikim ku dewlet j\u00ee min wiha nas bike. Ez bi dewlet\u00ea re hevd\u00eetin dikim. Ez bawer dikim ku ew min f\u00eam dikin. Ez bawer dikim ku ew \u00ea gav\u00ean p\u00eaw\u00eest bav\u00eajin.<\/h3>\n

Sebr\u00ee Ok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

L\u00ea \u00eextidar wisa xuya nake. Ew d\u00eemenek we nade\u2026<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ez bi dewlet\u00ea re hevd\u00eetin dikim. Kar\u00ea min bi desthilat\u00ea an partiy\u00ean siyas\u00ee re tune. Ez bi dewlet\u00ea re hevd\u00eetin dikim. Bir\u00eaz Hakan li gel we ye. Ew mirovek\u00ee wisa h\u00eaja ye. Ez h\u00eav\u00ee dikim ku h\u00fbn \u00ea pi\u015ftre \u015f\u00eeveke a\u015ftiy\u00ea bixwin.<\/h3>\n

Sebr\u00ee Ok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ez dixwazim agahdar\u00ee bidim we. Daxwazek heb\u00fb ku bi Barzan\u00ee re hevd\u00eetin b\u00ea kirin, l\u00ea ew hevd\u00eetin h\u00een p\u00eak nehatiye. H\u00ea me bersivek li ser v\u00ea mijar\u00ea negirtiye.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan: ev 50 sal in ez Qend\u00eel \u00fb y\u00ean S\u00fbriyey\u00ea didim j\u00eeyandin, l\u00ea h\u00fbn f\u00eam nakin.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Rayedar li wir in. Bir\u00eaz Hakan li wir e. Bila ew j\u00ee bizanibe, ez \u00ea p\u00ea\u015fniyarek\u00ea bikim. Div\u00ea ez bi kesek\u00ee Barzaniyan re hevd\u00eetin bikim. Ev \u00een\u00eesiyat\u00eef a min e. Div\u00ea ev hevd\u00eetin were sazkirin.<\/h3>\n

Sebr\u00ee Ok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ger serok hvd\u00eetin\u00ea bike ew \u00ea bi bandor be. Ew guh nadin me w\u00ea guh bidin we. D\u00ea we micid bigirin. D\u00ea ba\u015f be ku h\u00fbn hevd\u00eetin p\u00ea re bikin.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ez f\u00eam dikim ku h\u00fbn \u00e7i dib\u00eajin. Spas dikim, ez v\u00ea gir\u00eadana we bi q\u00eemet dib\u00eenim. Ez ne hewcey\u00ee pi\u015ftgiriy\u00ea me; ez be\u015fa pi\u015ftgiriy\u00ea ve\u015fart\u00ee dih\u00ealim. Ez pesn\u00ea xwe nadim, l\u00ea ez we sax dih\u00ealim. Ez Qend\u00eel\u00ea sax dih\u00ealim. Ez y\u00ean li S\u00fbriyey\u00ea sax \u00fb li ser piyan dih\u00ealim. H\u00fbn v\u00ea yek\u00ea fam nakin. Div\u00ea h\u00fbn bizanin k\u00ee-\u00e7i Qend\u00eel\u00ea 50 salanin zind\u00ee dih\u00eale. H\u00fbn dizanin em \u00e7awa dij\u00een. H\u00fbn bi t\u00eara xwe fam nakin.<\/h3>\n

Sebr\u00ee Ok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Me her gav serok dereng fam kiriye. Me ew bi t\u00eara xwe fam nekiriye. Em \u00ea\u015fa w\u00ea diki\u015f\u00eenin.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

\u00c7ima h\u00fbn \u00ea\u015fa w\u00ea diki\u015f\u00eenin? Tu 60 sal\u00ee y\u00ee. Hafiz Esed f\u00eam nekir, min got, “d\u00ea tu biqed\u00ee” Ez ji S\u00fbriy\u00ea derketim \u00fb hilwe\u015fiya. Ez ji Tirkiyey\u00ea re j\u00ee dib\u00eajim. Ev sal ji bo Tirkiyey\u00ea saleke par\u00e7eb\u00fbn\u00ea ye. Ger h\u00fbn \u00e7areseriyek\u00ea p\u00ea\u015f nexin, ew j\u00ee d\u00ea bi pirsgir\u00eakan re r\u00fb bi r\u00fb bim\u00eenin. Ez dizanim ka ez \u00e7i ser linga dih\u00ealim. Wefadariya we heye. Ez r\u00eaz\u00ea li w\u00ea digirim. L\u00ea ez dizanim ka ez \u00e7i ser linga dih\u00ealim. H\u00fbn\u00ea ferq bikin. Div\u00ea tu w\u00ea rast fam bik\u00ee, rast bic\u00eeh b\u00een\u00ee \u00fb rast li ser linga bisekin\u00ee. \u00a0Hamili (Ham\u00eel\u00ee Yildirim) li vir e. Ez difikirim ku tu dixwaz\u00ee silav\u00ea l\u00ea bik\u00ee. (Silav dane hev.)<\/h3>\n

\u00cero rojek d\u00eerok\u00ee ye. Er\u00ea, em berdewam bikin. Ez \u00ea j\u00ea re b\u00eajim demagojiya Qend\u00eel\u00ea. Apoy\u00ea rast\u00een li ber \u00e7av\u00ean we ye. Kes nikare ti\u015ftek\u00ee li ser min ferz bike. Ne h\u00fbn, ne dewlet. bel\u00ea, ti\u015ftek din heye\u2026?<\/h3>\n

Sebr\u00ee Ok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Wek\u00ee ku min got, em hewl didin ku we fam bikin \u00fb bic\u00eeh b\u00eenin. Em hewl didin ku f\u00eam bikin. L\u00ea em li benda gavek\u00ea ji dewlet\u00ea ne j\u00ee.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ez \u00ea d\u00eesa we rexne bikim. H\u00fbn \u00e7ima p\u00eangav ne av\u00eatina dewlet\u00ea mezin dikin. M\u00eena mirovek\u00ee ewqas jar neaxive. Bin\u00eare, ez li vir im.\u00a0 Her roj dikarim hevd\u00eetin bikim, l\u00ea ez ti\u015ftek\u00ee wisa h\u00eav\u00ee nakim. Em ti\u015ftek\u00ee ji dewlet\u00ea naxwazin. Dewlet ten\u00ea r\u00eagir nebe bes e. Div\u00ea em ji v\u00ea b\u00eatir ti\u015ftek\u00ee h\u00eav\u00ee nekin. Li Tirkiyey\u00ea kes tune ji ku demokrasiy\u00ea f\u00eam bike. Ez \u00ea Demokras\u00eey\u00ea f\u00ear\u00ee w\u00ea bikim. Demokras\u00ee ne wergirtina parek ji dewlet\u00ea ye. Ewlehiya cewher\u00ee kar\u00ea we ye. Ez naxwazim kesek bimire. L\u00ea h\u00fbn d\u00ea w\u00ea misoger bik\u00een.<\/h3>\n

Sebr\u00ee Ok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Te li ser h\u00eaza me ya bingeh\u00een pirs\u00ee. Te di hevd\u00eetina me ya daw\u00ee de behs kir. H\u00eaza me ya bingeh\u00een \u015fiyana me ye ku em we f\u00eam bikin \u00fb p\u00eak binin.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Dibe ku bombebaran berdewam bike. Dibe ku \u00ear\u00ee\u015f hebin. H\u00fbn \u00ea xwe bipar\u00eazin. Ez nikarim bib\u00eajim ka s\u00ea meh an du meh d\u00ea bidome. L\u00ea \u00e7ek\u00ean di dest de tu car demokras\u00ee an a\u015ft\u00ee p\u00eak nay\u00ea. T\u00eako\u015f\u00eena demokrat\u00eek ji \u00e7ekan xurttir e.<\/h3>\n

Sebr\u00ee Ok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Heke gav\u00ean p\u00eaw\u00eest ney\u00ean av\u00eatin, kes \u00e7ek\u00ean xwe danayne. Em \u00e7ek\u00ean xwe na dan\u00een<\/h3>\n

Dilar S\u00eewas:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Serok\u00ea min, tevgera jinan t\u00eako\u015f\u00eenek dide ku di nav pergala serdest de, ango di nav pergala ku ji h\u00eala m\u00earan ve serdest e de. Di v\u00ea \u00e7ar\u00e7ovey\u00ea de t\u00ea f\u00eamkirin ku serokatiy\u00ea rolek p\u00ea\u015feng di stratejiya xwe de daye tevgera jinan. Jinan ji m\u00earan potansiyelek mezintir heye ku v\u00ea p\u00eavajoy\u00ea fam bikin \u00fb bic\u00eeh b\u00eenin.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Er\u00ea. Jin di kar\u00ea xwe de serket\u00eetir in. Ew ji m\u00earan b\u00eatir kedkar \u00fb d\u00ees\u00eepl\u00een in.<\/h3>\n

Bi dewlet\u00ea re niyeta hevbe\u015f a ba\u015f heye. Em nikarin her \u00fb her dijmin bim\u00eenin. Min ber\u00ea digot ku xwarina dewlet\u00ea heram e. Niha ez dib\u00eajim: Naa. Her \u00e7end dewlet j\u00ee bide ew para min e. Min digot bac \u00fb keda min heye. Dewlet ya min e. L\u00ea dewleta ku ji s\u00eestem\u00ea d\u00fbr dikeve komploger e. L\u00ea em dewlet\u00ea diguher\u00eenin. Ez bi zan\u00eena her ti\u015ft\u00ee siyaset\u00ea dikim. Ev veguher\u00eena dewlet\u00ea ew e ku em bi w\u00ea re di diyalog\u00ea de ne. B\u00ea guman, hin ti\u015ft w\u00ea biqewimin. Em \u00ea v\u00ea yek\u00ea qan\u00fbn\u00ea ve gir\u00ea bidin. H\u00fbn Apoyek\u00ee xeyalperest p\u00ea\u015fk\u00ea\u015f dikin. H\u00fbn difikirin ku ez nizanim.<\/h3>\n

Remz\u00ee Qartal:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Wek\u00ee gel \u00fb r\u00eaxistin, ji bo banga R\u00eaber Apo ti g\u00fbman tune. Baweriya me bi tevah\u00ee heye. Pirsgir\u00eak ev e ku dewlet\u00ea ti gav\u00ean bawer\u00eedan\u00ea neav\u00eatiye.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan: Min Bah\u00e7el\u00ee an\u00ee ser v\u00ea xet\u00ea.<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Min Bax\u00e7el\u00ee an\u00ee ser v\u00ea xet\u00ea. we ev yek f\u00eam nekiriye. Ez rew\u015fa we pir xirab dib\u00eenim. N\u00eaz\u00eekatiya we v\u00ea yek\u00ea n\u00ee\u015fan dide.<\/h3>\n

Remz\u00ee Qartal:<\/span><\/h3>\n

N\u00eaz\u00eekatiya li hember we, n\u00eaz\u00eekatiya li hember azadiya te, n\u00eaz\u00eekatiya li hember p\u00eavajoy\u00ea ye. \u015eert \u00fb merc\u00ean jiyana te ya azad \u015fert\u00ea me ne.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ew wisa nabe. Ger h\u00fbn ev qas dubare bik\u00een \u00fb v\u00ea yek\u00ea wisa bikin, d\u00ea dewlet j\u00ee serhi\u015fk bibe \u00fb min h\u00een dir\u00eajtir min li vir bih\u00eale. Serok erkan\u00ea gi\u015ft\u00ee y\u00ea Tirk\u00eey\u00ea got tu \u00e7i bik\u00ee d\u00ea tu bixwe bik\u00ee. Tu dikar\u00ee ji vir derkev\u00ee, an j\u00ee dikar\u00ee bimir\u00ee. Ew rast dib\u00eaje. Ez \u00ea dewlet\u00ea veguher\u00eenim. Ez bi biryar im.<\/h3>\n

Sebr\u00ee Ok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ger\u00eela weke feda\u00eey\u00ean serokat\u00ee tevl\u00ee b\u00fbn. General her tim dib\u00eajin tesl\u00eem bibin \u00fb \u00e7ek\u00ean xwe deynin. Ev yek nay\u00ea qeb\u00fblkirin.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ez 20 sal in ez li vir im. Min li vir debara xwe kiriye. Min m\u00eena le\u015fkerek\u00ee jiyaye. Min b\u00ead\u00ees\u00eepl\u00een\u00eeyek pi\u00e7\u00fbk j\u00ee n\u00ee\u015fan nedaye. H\u00fbn nizanin li wir \u00e7awa bij\u00een. \u00c7ima te li wir wek le\u015fkerek\u00ee serkeftinek mezin bi dest nexistiye? Xweparastin\u00ea heta dawiy\u00ea bike. Ma kesek\u00ea r\u00eagir\u00ee li te kir\u00eeye? L\u00ea te \u015f\u00eeyan\u00ean v\u00ea yek\u00ea n\u00ee\u015fan nedaye. Xwe sipartina Amer\u00eekay\u00ea ne h\u00eaza cewher\u00ee ye. Rexney\u00ean min \u00ean gir\u00eeng hene. Ji min serokat\u00eeya kukla h\u00eav\u00ee nekin. Ez \u00ea bi hem\u00fbyan hisap bipirsim. Ji we j\u00ee \u00fb ji Barzan\u00ee j\u00ee. Hamil\u00ee \u00fb Omer li vir serk\u00ea\u015f\u00eeya v\u00ea kirin. Niha ew m\u00eena berxan li pi\u015ft min r\u00fbni\u015ftine. (Ew bi devken\u00ee ber\u00ea xwe da wan) Ew dikarin biaxivin. Fermo hevalno;<\/h3>\n

Hamil\u00ee Yildirim:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Me gelek ti\u015ft wergirtin. Me xwe bi tevah\u00ee guherand\u00eeye.<\/h3>\n

Omer Xeyr\u00ee Konar:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ez fikar\u00ean we fam dikim. Perspekt\u00eefa bingeh\u00een a li vir ev e: Div\u00ea tu xwe biguher\u00ee, ne dewlet\u00ea. Xwe bisp\u00eare h\u00eaza xwe. Wek\u00ea din Heb\u00fbn ne mumkin e.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ev pir gir\u00eeng e. Xwe afirandin \u00fb heb\u00fbn \u00fb heb\u00fbna xwe misoger kirin… Heval\u00ea Remz\u00ee dizane. Ewropa navenda xweafirandin\u00ea ye. Weysi, tu \u00e7i dib\u00eaj\u00ee?<\/h3>\n

Weysi Akta\u015f:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Ev p\u00eavajoya ji n\u00fb ve xwe afirandin \u00fb avakirin\u00ea ye.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Bi temam\u00ee wisa ye. Xweafirandin. ziman \u00fb bingeha v\u00ea p\u00eavajoy\u00ea ev e.<\/h3>\n

Remz\u00ee Qartal:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Tevl\u00eeb\u00fbn\u00ean enternasyonal\u00eest hene. Ji gelek welatan tevl\u00eeb\u00fbn\u00ean parad\u00eegmaya we hene. Ew silav\u00ean xwe di\u015f\u00eenin.<\/h3>\n

Ocalan:<\/span><\/h3>\n

(Serok ket navber\u00ea) Ez silav\u00ean xwe ji hem\u00fbyan re di\u015f\u00eenim. Ez gotina “Sosyal\u00eezma reel ber bi t\u00eak\u00e7\u00fbn\u00ea ve di\u00e7e, sosyal\u00eezma demokrat\u00eek ber bi serketin\u00ea ve di\u00e7e” p\u00ea\u015fk\u00ea\u015f\u00ee wan dikim. Her wiha, v\u00ea gotin\u00ea li ser nav\u00ea min bigeh\u00eenin wan: “Israr li ser mirovahiy\u00ea israr li ser sosyal\u00eezm\u00ea ye.” Silav\u00ean min ji Ert\u00fbgrul re j\u00ee bi\u015f\u00eenin. Bila ew li ser w\u00ee kar\u00ee bisekine. Bila ev j\u00ee erk\u00ea te be. Ma \u00celham tu ti\u015ftek dib\u00eaje?<\/h3>\n

\u00celham Ehmed:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Serok\u00ea min silav\u00ean hevalan bo we hene.<\/h3>\n

Serok:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Careke din ez \u00ea bi we re hevd\u00eetinek dir\u00eaj bikim. Silav li her kes\u00ee bikin, \u00fb ez \u00ea we bib\u00eenim.<\/h3>\n

\u00celham<\/span>: <\/strong>Em \u00ea w\u00ea dem\u00ea biaxivin, silav \u00fb r\u00eaz.<\/h3>\n

Hevd\u00eetin bi silavday\u00een \u00fb \u00e7epikan bi daw\u00ee b\u00fb.<\/h3>\n

Gr\u00fbpa ku bi Ocalan re hevd\u00eetin kir\u00ee, pi\u015ftre ji bo PKK \u00ea nota agahdarkirin\u00ea amade dike. Ji v\u00ea not\u00ea xuya dike ku hin kes ber\u00ea bi Ocalan re hevd\u00eetin kirine. Not her wiha n\u00ee\u015fan dide ku hevd\u00eetinek hevdem li Tirkiyey\u00ea p\u00eak dihat.<\/h3>\n

N\u00ear\u00een\u00ean Hevpar y\u00ean \u015fandey\u00ea:<\/span><\/h3>\n

Li gor\u00ee hevd\u00eetin\u00ean din, Serok bi co\u015f, k\u00eafxwe\u015f, moral bilind, \u00fb pir kelecan \u00fb amade b\u00fb. Bi taybet\u00ee heval\u00ean ku ber\u00ea be\u015fdar\u00ee hevd\u00eetina b\u00fbb\u00fbn gotin ku wan ev guhertina ber\u00e7av d\u00eetine.<\/h3>\n

\u015eandeya me amadekariy\u00ean xwe kirib\u00fb da ku nih\u00ear\u00eenek li ser dever\u00ean ku hatine p\u00ea\u015fk\u00ea\u015f bikin \u00fb agahdariya li ser kar\u00ea ku t\u00ea kirin parve bikin. L\u00eabel\u00ea, Serokat\u00ee derfet neda \u015fandey\u00ea ku agahdariya li ser dever\u00ean hat\u00ee parve bikin. W\u00ee bi tevah\u00ee amadekar\u00ee li ser p\u00ea\u015fk\u00ea\u015fkirina perspekt\u00eefek li ser kongrey\u00ea \u00fb bangawaz\u00eey\u00ea kirib\u00fb. bi giran\u00ee telekonferans bi gotara w\u00ee me\u015f\u00eeya. Di navra bi hinek pirsa, w\u00ee hewl da ku f\u00eam bike ka gelo pirsgir\u00eak\u00ean t\u00eagih\u00ee\u015ftin\u00ea an helwest\u00ean dijber hene an naa.<\/h3>\n

Serokat\u00ee di derbar\u00ea lidarxistina kongreyek hilwe\u015fandina pkk \u00ea de pir bi biryar \u00fb zelal b\u00fb. Ew dixwaze ku ev yek b\u00eay\u00ee derengmay\u00een\u00ea were kirin. L\u00eabel\u00ea, ew pi\u015ft\u00ee kongrey\u00ea ji bo b\u00ea\u00e7ekkirina r\u00eaxistin\u00ea ser xet\u00ea ye \u00fb ew we p\u00ea\u015f b\u00een\u00ee dike ku \u00e7end heyva dewam bike. T\u00eagih\u00ee\u015ftina me ji v\u00ea hevd\u00eetin\u00ea \u00fb raman\u00ean heya niha y\u00ean \u015fandey\u00ea ew e ku; kongreya hilwe\u015fandin\u00ea de teko\u015f\u00eena \u00e7ekdar\u00ee d\u00ea bidaw\u00ee bibe. \u00a0Biryar\u00ean li ser b\u00ea\u00e7ekkirin\u00ea bi p\u00eakan\u00eena hin mercan ve gir\u00eaday\u00ee be. Ev merc; p\u00eakan\u00eena guhertin\u00ean qan\u00fbn\u00ee y\u00ean li ser bingeha siyaseta demokrat\u00eek \u00fb \u00e7ar\u00e7oveyek qan\u00fbn\u00ee ne.<\/h3>\n

Xal\u00ean berbi\u00e7av \u00fb c\u00fbrbec\u00fbr \u00ean v\u00ea hevd\u00eetin\u00ea j\u00ee hiwa ne: nirxandin\u00ean Serokat\u00ee \u00ean li ser Barzan\u00ee, \u00ceran \u00fb S\u00fbriyey\u00ea, \u00fb erk\u00ean ku w\u00ee di v\u00ea mijar\u00ea de dane r\u00eaveber\u00eeya tevger\u00ea b\u00fbn. Li gel v\u00ea, ya gir\u00eeng ew b\u00fb ku w\u00ee j\u00ee dixwast ku hinek hevd\u00eetinan ew bi xwe bike. Daxwaza serok ya hevd\u00eetina demek z\u00fb bi hem \u00celham Ehmed \u00fb bi Barzan\u00ee re gir\u00eeng e.<\/h3>\n

Her wiha, rayedar\u00ean dewlet\u00ea p\u00ea\u015fniyar kirine ku Kongre pi\u015ft\u00ee v\u00ea konferans\u00ea z\u00fb were lidarxistin. Li ser v\u00ea p\u00ea\u015fn\u00eeyar\u00ea, Perv\u00een \u00fb Derya d\u00ea sib\u00ea li ser daxwaza \u00ce.K. (\u00cebrah\u00eem Kal\u0131n serok\u00ea M\u00ceT \u00ea) re hevd\u00eetin bikin.<\/h3>\n

Silav \u00fb r\u00eaz<\/span><\/h3>\n

\u015eandeya telekonferans\u00ea<\/span><\/h3>\n

2 Gulana 2025an<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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